I guess we're still going to plant tomatoes.
We bought the Akoya tomatoes in April. We'd gone to Home Depot and they didn't have any tomato plants. Well, I think they had a few but they were dying.
City Mill had only the Akoya variety so we bought it.
However, the small plant did start to produce rather larger sized cherry tomatoes pretty quickly. At last count (Yes, Art counted 😂), we'd gotten a little over 90 tomatoes from it.
But as you can see...it's dying.
The leaves just slowly dried up no matter how much water I gave it.
However, now Art liked the idea of growing our own tomatoes. So we stopped at the Navy Exchange garden shop and checked to see if they had tomatoes. And surprise! There were a LOT of DIFFERENT kinds of tomatoes in different sized pots.
So there we were checking online with our phones to see what kind of tomatoes there were. Art's sister is an avid gardener and had mentioned something about an indeterminate vs. determinate tomato variety. Sheesh! I'd never heard of that. I just knew bigger tomatoes vs. cherry tomatoes.
So we looked it up while standing there in the garden shop. And this is what we found on this Homes and Gardens website:
Determinate Tomatoes:
Determinate tomatoes are generally smaller than indeterminate varieties. They are more compact tomato plants that grow to a fixed size and do not continue to grow throughout the season. This growing habit does impact their fruiting, which happens during one period rather than continuously throughout the summer, and earlier than indeterminate types.
Indeterminate Tomatoes:
Indeterminate tomatoes make up the majority of tomato varieties. They continue to grow taller throughout the season and continually produce fruits all the way through to when the frosts hit.
The plants can get very tall, between six and ten feet, and need sturdy supports as they grow. Whereas determinate varieties have shorter and wider growth habit, indeterminate types grow vertically and need to be trained as tall and narrow plants.
Trouble is there was only ONE kind of Indeterminate tomatoes. Only one and it didn't look very healthy. It was called Husky Red VFA.
I got the following from AI Overview.
The Husky Red (often Husky Red F1) is a dwarf indeterminate tomato that combines the compact habit of a determinate plant with the season-long production of an indeterminate. Reaching 3 to 4.5 feet tall, it is perfect for containers, patios, and small spaces.Key Growing & Care Info
- Container Size: Requires at least a 5 to 10-gallon container to allow for full root development and maximum yield.
- Support: Despite its short stature, it features sturdy central stems with thick foliage and still benefits greatly from a tomato cage or stake.
- Harvest Timeline: Produces 5 to 7-ounce, globe-shaped slicing tomatoes in about 68 to 78 days.
- Disease Resistance: Known for its high tolerance to Verticillium Wilt, Fusarium Wilt, Gray Leaf Spot, and Alternaria Stem Canker. (This is what the VFA signified.)
OK... so we'll nurse this Husky Red tomato in the pot until Art is able to count the last Akoya harvest and then we can transplant the Husky Red in the same place after I compost the soil. Fingers crossed the Husky Red is able to grow a longer period that the Akoya.
We shall see.



We never had much luck with tomatoes, but we never tried very hard.
ReplyDeleteIt looks to me like the tomato plant has some type of disease. You might want to consider planting the second one in a different place in case there's something in the soil. I've had luck using a five-gallon bucket with drainage holes drilled into the bottom.
ReplyDeleteYou know, I came here to make the same suggestion. Also, when the plant starts growing, make sure that you clip off the leaves closest to the ground. They don't produce fruit, and will take energy Also if there is some sort of blight of disease in the soil, it will help protect the plant.
DeleteDitto Kathy G's comment. Your current one looks like it has some kind of fungal blight or something. Might want to take a few leaves of it to your trusted garden store. A new location, fresh compost, and some liquid MiracleGro, with your watering should make some Husky tomatoes! Good luck! Linda in Kansas
ReplyDeleteYour old tomato bush looks like it had spider mites. They suck the life out of the poor plants. I don't have much luck with tomato plants, so I wish you great luck with your new indeterminate tomato plant!
ReplyDeleteMy Dad puffed some type of "tomato plant dust" onto diseased plants in Oklahoma. Weird spots or spider mites like Aunty mentioned might have been why. I do remember he taught me how to just pluck off the fat green horn-worm caterpillars that ate on the leaves and step on them...not sure I could do that today. Linda in Kansas
ReplyDeleteI'm no help here, but I've grown just every day run of the mill tomatoes in my old garden. I used to can tons of them! I have had no luck in growing them in containers at all.
ReplyDeleteGood luck!
You're getting some good advice. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteThey look like they got blight which is a fungus that lives in the soil and gets up on the leaves during hard rains. We mulch heavily to help prevent it from splashing back up and that works pretty good but is not full proof. This year, we still ended up with some blight forming. Once blight is in the soil, it can over winter even here in Iowa so Hawaii is likely not hard for it. I wouldn't plant another tomato in the same spot but go someplace else. Meanwhile, you can clean all the debris off the surface where your old tomato plant is down to the bare soil and let it go fallow for a year or two before trying again.
ReplyDeleteI am thinking the squirrels will get to my tomatoes this year.
ReplyDeleteYou make tomato growing look complicated. I've grown the same stuff for years. Sometimes they change the name on me.
ReplyDeleteMy wife got gifted some plants but they haven't yielded fruit 🍅
ReplyDeleteI had to grow tomatos on the deck, which meant pots. Mine did okay. they need a lot of sun and our oak trees have grown to shade the deck, so we stopped. My only advice; sun is good, but midday maybe too hot on a wood deck.
ReplyDeleteWe haven't had a lot of luck with tomatoes. Something always gets to them before we do... and the heat here in the summer kills lots of plants. But good luck with your tomatoes!
ReplyDeleteLooks like powdery mold. Probably had it already when you purchased it. It’s a fungus disease. Many tomatoes from big stores already have diseases. They show up after you plant them. Very disheartening.
ReplyDeleteI say, garden tomatoes are worth some fuss, aren't they?
ReplyDeleteYou guys should look up the University of Hawaii seed program. They have disease resistant vegetable seeds that they sell in home garden packets. https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/seed/seeds.asp#tomato
ReplyDeleteHello Craig, It's so very nice to meet you. Thank you very much for this information. I just looked it up. Looks like they have more determinate tomatoes. Hmmm... So this is better? Sigh... I'm so confused..... They do have one indeterminate tomato. I shall keep this information for when this planting dies. Thank you again. It would be great to get seeds that the UH lab has determined would be good for Hawaii.
DeleteAlthough I love homegrown tomatoes, I gave up growing them when mine got blight one year. :(
ReplyDeleteI'm no expert but I do wonder if the tomato plant has a disease? It may well be an idea to plant the second one in a different place in case there's something in the soil . . . just a thought.
ReplyDeleteAll the best Jan