Saturday, January 9, 2010

Buddhism and Tiger Woods

I just read an excellent article by Tamara Lush (Associated Press) in the Star Bulletin this morning concerning Fox sports analyst, Brit Hume saying that Tiger Woods should look to Christianity rather than Buddhism to gain redemption and forgiveness. He is referring to the fact that Woods said he applies a lot of what he learned from his mom's Thai Buddhism to focus his game...meaning golf.

I'm tired of this. I'm really tired of anybody trying to impose their belief systems on others by saying their system IS better than ALL the others. Wars often start for just this reason.

I'm thrilled that you have a religion or belief system that works for you, but please don't look down on what other people might believe, especially when you don't really understand their beliefs.

Here is an excerpt from Lush's article in the Star Bulletin. I tried to find the link but it's not there yet so I'm copying it off the paper.

..."Adultery is as much of a sin in Buddhism as it is in Christianity," Thurman (Robert Thurman, professor of Tibetan studies at Columbia University) said. "The ethics are the same in both traditions. Adultery is a sin and cause the kinds of problems that Tiger Woods is in."

Where many Westerners stumble is that Buddhists' definition of sin-- and what happens after it--differs from the Judeo-Christian tradition, as the consequences of Buddhists' actions are a result of a person's thoughts and deeds rather than divine punishment. Believers have to look to themselves and turn to an ethical way of life for redemption, although there are savior figures to help a Buddhist in need. There is no one, omnipotent "creator god" to bestow redemption as in Christianity.

You have the law of karma, so no matter what Woods says or does, he is going to have to pay for whatever wrongs he's done," said Stephen Prothero, a Boston University professor on Buddhism and the author of "Religious Literacy: What Americans Need to Know." "There's no accountant in the sky wiping sins off your balance sheet, like there is in Christianity." ...

I guess that's what surprised me when I went to college and met a dorm mate who told me she slept with her friend's boyfriend but she wasn't worried because she was going to church that evening to confess her sins and be fine again. Then there was that other dorm mate who was crying hysterically for a whole bunch of us because she said we were all going to hell for not belonging to her church even though she knew how nice we all were.

Sigh...

25 comments:

  1. Ditto to your thoughts Kay. And why has this whole situation become such a huge deal to the world??

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  2. I am so glad you broached this topic, Kay.
    I was fuming when I first saw the video clip of Britt Hume carrying on about Tiger Woods needing to become a Christian so he could find absolution for his sins. When anyone dared to criticize Hume, the conservative right backed him and attacked the criticizer. They saw no comparison to Islamic zealots. They are blinded by their own self righteousness.
    Then I saw some Christian theologians objecting to Hume's comment, saying it cheapened Christianity. Good for them.
    Personally I'm with John Lennon:

    Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today...

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...

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  3. I agree with you and the comments thusfar. There is no way to undo the wrongs no matter what the religion.

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  4. Wow, I believe this is a hot button issue for you. Not to worry it's always been the same for me.

    Religion is one of the reaszons I moved from Texas to Oregon.

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  5. I'd be interested to read the Religious Literacy book - thanks for that quote Kay, because I hadn't heard this at all but it's interesting.

    Of course we all have opinions about Tiger's behaviour, but ultimately his redemption is in his own hands, and how he manages that is none of our business at all, is it? I can't stand it when someone tries to impose their religion or politics or personal beliefs on me.

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  6. Amen, Kay. Too many people think they have all the answers. I grew up in a church that believes they are basically the only ones going to heaven someday. PULLEEEEASE! After looking around for many years trying to find a fit, I've discovered that churches are pretty much all the same. I don't go anywhere at all now, but I still feel like I am a spiritual person.

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  7. I don't condone Tiger's behavior, but, hey, I am not perfect, either! How he deals with his guilt, shame, and imperfections is really his business. He is already facing the financial consequences as sponsors quit sponsoring him. Maybe that is the only punishment he considers punishment.

    Personally, I believe in NO religion. David and I belong to no church and we like it that way.

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  8. I totally agree Kay! I'm sick and tired of hearing about Tiger Woods period! Why has this world become so obsessed with athletes, stars, etc. Don't they have a life! Britt Hume should make a public apology!!

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  9. Being a Christian when I heard that statement I knew it was off. Every religious beliefs has its own version of right and wrong and how its handled. Tiger Woods is facing a real dilemma and it's not what his religion is or isn't-its the consequence of his misbehavior. What's sad is that his dad did the same thing to his mother. I feel sorry for his wife Elen. I'm been in that position in my first marriage and it's not fun.

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  10. Forgiveness? Sin? Righteousness?
    Guilt? Absolution? Redemption?

    Don't need any of that.

    Envy is my vice. For I want some of the action Tiger was getting!

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  11. Oh, ditto, ditto, ditto! I couldn't agree more and this whole "if you're not a christian, then you're going to burn in hell" really sets me off, big time. I'll go with Linda and John Lennon, you and the others here!! Great post, Kay! Enjoy what's left of your weekend!

    Sylvia

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  12. shocking what the sports analyst had to say, I'm questioning his intelligence.

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  13. I applaud you for this post Kay. I can't remember if I have mentioned this before but years ago when there were race riots in Los Angeles I was watching a television program and the camera focussed on some graffiti on a wall. I can't remember the exact words but it went something like this, "We are all very different and beautiful flowers who grow in the same beautiful garden." It's meaning to me was we're all of different faiths and races, but we all live on the same planet. Let's leave our self-righteousness and judgmental ways behind us, it's time to learn to understand one another's differences, it's time to get along. That was my interpretation of it anyhow.

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  14. I agree with you completely. And what makes me even more cross is that the newspapers and other media justify their fascination with things like this by saying that 'it's in the public interest' for people to know. What complete rubbish. They're just displaying their own prurient interest.

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  15. As a Christian, when I read that kind of comment I want to shrivel up inside. BH is setting himself up as judge and that's as big a sin as anything TW has done. I believe what I believe but I try not to force it on others and I don't want others forcing their belief system - or not - on me. Jesus was the biggest pacifist and most accepting of others that there was (so I believe, anyway)and it hurts to see fundamentalists using Him for their own agenda.

    If we all followed the true tenets of whatever God or gods we believe in, there would be no wars or strife or my-god-is-better-than-your-god videos. It's not our faith that's the problem: it's how we practice it.

    Having said all of this, please don't think my own faith is wishy-washy - I absolutely believe that Christ is my saviour; I just don't think I have the right to dictate what you should believe.

    This is what's so good about the internet - a frank - but polite! - exchange of views, allowing us to understand each other. Pity fundamentalists of all denominations don't use it this way.

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  16. That article doesn't portray Christianity in a clear light, either. Yes, we believe God will forgive our sins, but only the delusional expect that to make the consequences go away. If Tiger Woods were to ask God for forgiveness [hypothetical], God would grant it, but Tiger would still have to live with the mess he made of things -- just like Adam and Eve did.

    Christians don't call it "karma" but we definitely believe that one reaps what one sows. That's why I prefer sowing love, harmony and compassion. ;)

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  17. Brit Hume is just the latest tv personality that fell out of the cuckcoo's nest at Fox News, on the heels of his predecessor, Glenn Beck. Making personal attacks on somebody's religion was forseeable since Fox Network went after Rev. Wright, Obama's preacher, during the presidential campaign, in the sense, that being anti-Democrat is itself a religion at Fox. I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican, myself. Each and every day, Brit Hume gets more pupule.

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  18. everyone has his/her own rights to believe in a religion.

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  19. I do agree, Kay. I guess it's part of human nature to believe their way is the only way - but they are so very wrong. Now, am I believing MY way is right by saying they are wrong? Maybe - but being human, I am going to continue to believe they are wrong.
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    Just about every faith that exists has the same basic moral standards, yet they do not see this in one another.

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  20. So well said, Kay. I have a close relative who is convinced that it's not enough to have Christian beliefs like hers, but we must believe the way her specific church believes or we'll go straight to hell. Very frustrating.

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  21. Let me just say, I love your new header!
    You were so near yet so far.

    A visiting friend and I are taking the bus down to Ein Gedi and the Dead Sea on Thursday. I haven't been there in ages.

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  22. I heard that about Brit Hume and it made me furious...I agree with your 100%....

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  23. After my end of the world story, this is almost funny.

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  24. I'm reiterating what you said at my blog when I wrote my rants about this:

    We not only share our name, we think an awful lot alike, too.

    People like Brit Hume make me ashamed to call myself a Christian. Wait a minute! People like Brit Hume don't consider Catholics Christians. Am I safe?

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